I think that can be worked if if you look I the right place Hemmo.
If it helps to give NVA a positive why worry about them?
The world of Hi-Fi is plagued by people trying to stop you commenting on what you hear and making decisions from it. This forum is different - here we do not allow people to challenge what people hear, and we can discuss the musical ability of our systems
All in good time Doc, I've only just got it!