Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by SteveTheShadow » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:01 am

hillsanddalesrover wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:47 am

Quite so Eric. :)

Thing is, as I see things, some of Mr Dunns biggest detractors don't hate the man, or his products. Just his internet persona.
Then they can't tell fiction from reality.
It's a bit like a group of old ladies handbagging John Altman (Nick Cotton) in the street for what he did to his mum June Brown (Dot).
Shows said keyboard warriors up for the knuckle dragging dumbasses they are.
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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by savvypaul » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:19 am

As I think Lindsay, and RD himself, have already said;

If they wish to discuss RD, they should start a thread here. Then RD will be the subject.

We'll be able to critique what they say, of course, but only addressing the post, not the poster (otherwise that would be ad-hom).

Always up for a thread that deals with the facts. Might help everyone's understanding.

In the meantime I think they are doing their cause more harm than good, so don't mind, either way.
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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by hillsanddalesrover » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:22 am

SteveTheShadow wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:01 am
hillsanddalesrover wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:47 am


Shows said keyboard warriors up for the knuckle dragging dumbasses they are.
I can't address that comment directly, but in general, that sort of comment is as bad as those against Mr Dunn which some here detest so much.

Why not take the lead Mr Shadow and stop hostilities ?

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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by savvypaul » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:29 am

hillsanddalesrover wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:22 am
SteveTheShadow wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:01 am
hillsanddalesrover wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:47 am


Shows said keyboard warriors up for the knuckle dragging dumbasses they are.
I can't address that comment directly, but in general, that sort of comment is as bad as those against Mr Dunn which some here detest so much.

Why not take the lead Mr Shadow and stop hostilities ?
Zero equivalence. Suggesting that a complaint about bullying is just as bad as the bullying...is complete nonsense.

Akin to saying "If the guy getting bullied would only stop complaining then everything would be better"
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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by SteveTheShadow » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:36 am

Interesting isnt it.

It always has to be down to the recipient of the abuse to cease hostilities.
I used to deal with bullying on a regular basis and in real life it is exactly the same.
Always the victim is questioned, never the perpetrator.

Bullies are quietly respected, whilst the victim is seen as having done something to attract the wrong sort of attention.

A peculiarly British attitude and there is no chance of that changing, it is culturally entrenched in the indigenous population as perfectly illustrated in the previous comments.
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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by savvypaul » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:39 am

Deflection is usually the first tactic deployed by bullies when their behaviour is called out. Won't wash here.
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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by hillsanddalesrover » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:44 am

In my book, this comment

"Shows said keyboard warriors up for the knuckle dragging dumbasses they are."

Is not conducive to effecting a peaceful cessation of hostilities.

Unless someone takes the initiative it will run for ever.

Some consider Mr Dunn to be the bully, so where does that leave us ?

To be honest, I don't really care, It's not my fight, but at least two forums would be much more peaceful if the fight was suspended.

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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by savvypaul » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:57 am

hillsanddalesrover wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:44 am
In my book, this comment

"Shows said keyboard warriors up for the knuckle dragging dumbasses they are."

Is not conducive to effecting a peaceful cessation of hostilities.

Unless someone takes the initiative it will run for ever.

Some consider Mr Dunn to be the bully, so where does that leave us ?

To be honest, I don't really care, It's not my fight, but at least two forums would be much more peaceful if the fight was suspended.
Whether SteveTheShadow's comment is conducive to reconciliation, or not, is irrelevant. A complaint about bullying is in no way equivalent to the bullying.

Meaningful changes in relationships only come from understanding. Look at RD's most recent comments about David at MCRU for a clear and relevant example of this.

If some consider RD to be a bully (or an ass, or a twat, or whatever) they can start a thread here to discuss the facts. Anyone will be able to critique what they say, of course, but only addressing the post, not the poster (otherwise that would be ad-hom).

It is possible, as a result, that other forums' threads would be less likely to go off-subject...assuming that all participants can maintain that discipline.

And, if you don't really care... then don't post ;)
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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by SteveTheShadow » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:38 pm

In the absence if DQ who has a penchant for this sort of thing

Here is a little ditty that sums up the Haters.

Read, digest.

Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind
You open up their hearts
And here's what you'll find
A few frozen pizzas
Some ice cubes with hair
A broken Popsicle
You don't want to go there

Some humans ain't human
Though they walk like we do
They live and they breathe
Just to turn the old screw
They screw you when you're sleeping
They try to screw you blind
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind

You might go to church
And sit down in a pew
Those humans who ain't human
Could be sittin' right next to you
They talk about your family
They talk about your clothes
When they don't know their own ass
From their own elbows

Jealousy and stupidity
Don't equal harmony
Jealousy and stupidity
Don't equal harmony

Have you ever noticed
When you're feeling really good
There's always a pigeon
That'll come shit on your hood
Or you're feeling your freedom
And the world's off your back
Some cowboy from Texas
Starts his own war in Iraq

Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind
They lie through their teeth
With their head up their behind
You open up their hearts
And here's what you'll find
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind

John Prine.
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Re: Anudder Phono Stage Bake-off

Unread post by karatestu » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:36 pm

Just caught up on the Phono bake off thread at AT.

Sir Cedric Minge is a funny old character, hilarious. :lol:
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