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its just you.
Read the bloody thing properly ;) Quote Gaz.

No Gaz & (Sov) - I assure you it aint.

I Watch every thread posted on HFS (Sad - Maybe) But This bollock's I have yet to hear any one say any thing - Be it - NEG or POS...Ya skirt about the fukin bush.... :twisted:

Please tell it like it is............Regen my arse. :hand:

IS IT WORTH THE DOSH = :?: :naughty:,,,Is it Fuk...IMHO of course.

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Gazjam wrote:
If i was slotting in a AG1500 with my balanced mains setup it would need to be AFTER the transformer I'd think, as the 1.5KVA output from the AG1500 would bottleneck the BPS's 2KVA rating.
Complete lack of understanding again, read old post.

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selby wrote:Question for anyone who has a AG500 or AG1500 - what IEC input/output leads are you using? Standard or Specialist?

Is there any benefit in getting an upgraded "hifi" plug socket? Or are special sockets, plugs and leads pointless?
Read the AG threads they can be ordered with Schuko, 13 amp or IEC output sockets. The last ones I would use are IEC they are crap.

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You, Sir, are a madman.
No idea what you just said...

How can you say that something isn't worth the dosh unless youve heard it yourself?

Unless your just looking for an argument of course... :hand:
jammy395 wrote:its just you.
Read the bloody thing properly ;) Quote Gaz.

No Gaz & (Sov) - I assure you it aint.


I Watch every thread posted on HFS (Sad - Maybe) But This bollock's I have yet to hear any one say any thing - Be it - NEG or POS...Ya skirt about the fukin bush.... :twisted:

Please tell it like it is............Regen my arse. :hand:

IS IT WORTH THE DOSH = :?: :naughty:,,,Is it Fuk...IMHO of course.
I have HIfi n' stuff.

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How so Richard?
Isn't the AG1500's max output 1.5KVA?
What would you think the best way to fit a balanced mains with a regen unit would be?

ta. :)



Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:
Gazjam wrote:
If i was slotting in a AG1500 with my balanced mains setup it would need to be AFTER the transformer I'd think, as the 1.5KVA output from the AG1500 would bottleneck the BPS's 2KVA rating.
Complete lack of understanding again, read old post.
I have HIfi n' stuff.

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OK lets look at this with electronic logic.

You have an electronic doo-dah that is capable of drawing 1w max. You want to put a 110ohm resistor in front of it for some reason. You don't have 110ohm res but you have 100ohm 10w and 10ohm 5w so you series them to make 110ohm - with me so far? Now according to your logic you have to put the 100ohm in front of the 10ohm otherwise the 10ohm will strangle what the 100ohm is doing if its in front. Now do you understand me as what you are saying makes as much sense.

I don't know which will be the best way as it will be a subjective decision that I have been trying to get him (Sov) to come to for days if not weeks.

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Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:
I don't know which will be the best way as it will be a subjective decision that I have been trying to get him (Sov) to come to for days if not weeks.
Probably over a month :? I will get to it, I'm dead keen to know myself, give me a week or so. :roll:

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Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:OK lets look at this with electronic logic.

You have an electronic doo-dah that is capable of drawing 1w max. You want to put a 110ohm resistor in front of it for some reason. You don't have 110ohm res but you have 100ohm 10w and 10ohm 5w so you series them to make 110ohm - with me so far? Now according to your logic you have to put the 100ohm in front of the 10ohm otherwise the 10ohm will strangle what the 100ohm is doing if its in front. Now do you understand me as what you are saying makes as much sense.

I don't know which will be the best way as it will be a subjective decision that I have been trying to get him (Sov) to come to for days if not weeks.
Get what your saying but not sure that's exactly a good analogy..

My logic:
The Regen unit makes sure 230V gets to your kit by regenerating it.
It provides output of 1.5KVA to your kit via its output terminals/sockets

High KVA = low impedance. (a good thing)

AG1500 max output is 1.5KVA fed to BPS hence max output from BPS= max input from AG1500

;which is 1.5KVA, which is less than 2KVA from balanced mains...hence not the lowest impedance possible.

(I thnk!)
I have HIfi n' stuff.

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You still don't see it, nothing is going to strangle nothing. 500va would be more than enough for a normal hi-fi so why would either strangle either. OK one is more overkill than the other. So the overkill is to decrease the source impedance hence my analogy with resistors - do you see now.

In reality you may be right but your logic is flawed and not electronically or electrically correct in theory or in fact. The answer will be subjective.

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Ah, ok. :)
Was just going on the theory that a lowest impedance input to the hifi (as the combination of the bps and regen that preceeds it) would be the best setup.
Didnt want to minimise the overkill and raise the impedance...

In reality, its all subjective to me and Id consider the regen if the sound changed later at night for the better like it used to.
With the balanced mains in it seems consistent.

Which is good.
I have HIfi n' stuff.

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