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I disagree with the statement that musicians are typically not good evaluators of sound reproduction.

I am not a musician either

I don't see how it could be stating the obvious. What he highlights is an arguable point. What is stating the obvious is some people's grasp of the English language is poor

Daniel Quinn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:47 pm I don't see how it could be stating the obvious.

The obvious bit is that a musical performance and the reproduction of that performance are entirely different things and will be evaluated using different criteria. The arguable point is whether musicians are less good at evaluating reproduction of music than the rest of us.

I do not think musicians are that concerned about evaluation reproduction, except where remastering is concerned. Neil Young is the only one who springs to mind.

joe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:47 am

Daniel Quinn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:47 pm I don't see how it could be stating the obvious.

The obvious bit is that a musical performance and the reproduction of that performance are entirely different things and will be evaluated using different criteria. The arguable point is whether musicians are less good at evaluating reproduction of music than the rest of us.

You have illegitimately semantically divided what he is saying in order to rescue your point.

Whatever.

joe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:47 am

Daniel Quinn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:47 pm I don't see how it could be stating the obvious.

The obvious bit is that a musical performance and the reproduction of that performance are entirely different things and will be evaluated using different criteria. The arguable point is whether musicians are less good at evaluating reproduction of music than the rest of us.

At a bake-off, I heard a Nils Lofgren track on one turntable and the performance sounded 'perfunctory'. On the next turntable, the same track sounded like Nils had just taken a line of cocaine - much more tension and impact. Others commented on it, too.

Same performance, but the differences in 'reproduction' changed my view of the performance...

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& small experiment with 5” full range car audio drivers I picked up for £10- small port upwards for additional ‘bass’
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You got me all excited, till I realised it was a fancy name for nxt panels.

I've got some in my TV, they are not a patch on my speakers, so my excitement was quashed.