Where next with my NVA system?

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Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Alfi » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:17 pm

I currently have...

NVA P50, A20, Phono 2 ( 2 power supplies) SSC's, LS6 and home made Cube 1 style clones using 18mm Birch ply cabs. This system was achieved incrementally over a number of years.

Next steps I've considered are P40 mono's, BMU and possibly a BBPSU for my Phono 2?

Obviously I'd love to end up with TCS, TAS, TDS, TIS, TSCS and Cubix Pro's :grin: :dance: but funding the dream would be very difficult if not impossible :( So perhaps I could aim for TCS and TAS with TIS and TSCS may eventually be possible?


Any thoughts/advice welcome, or should I just be happy with my system as it stands?

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Heavily modified LP12 , Sole VIII sub-chassis with "In Sole" advanced polymer suspension, Ai bearing, PU7, DV20X2, Norton Airpower clone, etc. PL71 & Denon DL301 II, NVA Phono 2 MC (two power supplies), NVA P50, NVA A20 power amp, home made birch ply Allison 6/NVA Cube 1 clones, NVA SSC's, LS6.

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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Ithilstone » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:25 pm

I know from experience benefit of bigger transformers with NVA
SO A40 or bigger
BMU if you have a noisy mains

I will not comment on BBPSU as I use mine for headphones ;] and do not have TT at all
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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:29 pm

P50 to P50sa, SSC to SSP, then bypass A40's and go to A60. People like the idea of monoblocks but the 60 is a damn good underated amp. Same as your A20 but more power and much bigger power supply and proper external heatsink. That would be my 1 2 3.

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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by _D_S_J_R_ » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:44 am

The A20 is perfectly capable of reproducing changes further back in the chain given half a chance in my experience...
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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Alfi » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:09 am

Ithilstone wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:25 pm
I know from experience benefit of bigger transformers with NVA
SO A40 or bigger
BMU if you have a noisy mains

I will not comment on BBPSU as I use mine for headphones ;] and do not have TT at all
Thank you very much for your thoughts on my upgrade plan, I ave witnessed that you describe re transformers with the additional PS on my phono 2.


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Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:29 pm
P50 to P50sa, SSC to SSP, then bypass A40's and go to A60. People like the idea of monoblocks but the 60 is a damn good underated amp. Same as your A20 but more power and much bigger power supply and proper external heatsink. That would be my 1 2 3.
Cheers Doc that sound like a plan. I will need to make some changes to the cabinet I house my equipment in as the A 60 is taller than I can manage at the moment.

Will order up some SSP soon.

I may purchase the P50 SA outright as I do not want to be without my little P50. Can I do that and send my P50 back to you when I receive the SA version? I assume I'd get a pro rata trade in on its return?

Alfi.

_D_S_J_R_ wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:44 am
The A20 is perfectly capable of reproducing changes further back in the chain given half a chance in my experience...
Thanks Dave, that's fine and I fully accept how good the little A20 is but the Doc's genius at providing an upgrade path that really works has convinced me that I need something a bit larger. I was lead to ask where to go next as I have recently installed an additional Phono 2 PS and it has opened my eyes and ears once more. Phono 2 is in fact an excellent stage but with the additional PS it's bloody awesome. Think I have a wonderful journey of discovery ahead once more!



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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:12 am

Only if I can sell the P50 as new, which is unlikely. As long as the SA is here to fit (check before sending) I can turn it around in the same day, 10 minute job.

This is an upgrade job not a trade in job.

Make sure you do second PSU review.

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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Alfi » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:50 am

OK, I did buy the P50 as a trade in or B grade from you as it has a very small chip 4 x 4mm top LHS of the rear panel. I'll probably end up selling via the forum or eBay for a fair price.

Will do a review of the 2nd PSU soon as I can

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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Alfi » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:59 am

Doc, could I trade in my A20 for the A60 though and my SSC's for the SSP's ?


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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:09 pm

Yes of course.

You know the system, you buy at ebay, pay, and on delivery send back trade in and I refund against the new sale.

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Re: Where next with my NVA system?

Unread post by Alfi » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:00 pm

Great, thanks Doc.

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