Slinger.
I'm seriously thinking about getting an Asus tinker board to play with.
How does the the USB sound in comparison to the Hifiberry Digi+ PRO?
And are the HAT boards from a Pi compatible?
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Re: DAC to the Future
Some hats are compatible if memory serves, but I haven't bothered, and neither have the two or three others over at TAS who have swapped over to the Asus Tinker Board (ATB); we're all using USB and we're all getting better SQ than with our old Pi 3 setups. I was running a Pi3 B+ & HiFiBerry Digi+Pro. My full second system setup is listed here...
http://theaudiostandard.net/post/168931
... and is probably the "lowest" end of the lot.
I'm hoping the Oehlbach reclocker I've bought improves mine further, when I eventually get the bloody return label from Germany to get my duff one replaced.
Two things: Make sure you get the Tinker Board 'S' model, the 'S' is important, and whatever people tell you a good USB lead DOES make a difference to the sound. I auditioned 5 before I settled on the AudioQuest Carbon.
http://theaudiostandard.net/post/168931
... and is probably the "lowest" end of the lot.
I'm hoping the Oehlbach reclocker I've bought improves mine further, when I eventually get the bloody return label from Germany to get my duff one replaced.
Two things: Make sure you get the Tinker Board 'S' model, the 'S' is important, and whatever people tell you a good USB lead DOES make a difference to the sound. I auditioned 5 before I settled on the AudioQuest Carbon.
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Re: DAC to the Future
Thanks for that. I didn't realise that the S model was that different.
Have realised that good USB cables make a difference and have tried the AQ Carbon which is excellent. Have one from Inakustik at the moment, pretty good. The best USB cable I have heard is the Supra.
Am interested to try USB input on the Teradak which is supposedly optimised for USB and has a built-in reclocking circuit.
Have realised that good USB cables make a difference and have tried the AQ Carbon which is excellent. Have one from Inakustik at the moment, pretty good. The best USB cable I have heard is the Supra.
Am interested to try USB input on the Teradak which is supposedly optimised for USB and has a built-in reclocking circuit.
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That's interesting too. I almost tried the Supra but never got around to it. I've also heard good things about Pangea cables recently.
Amps - NVA P50, AP30, A40, Stanislav Palo Tube Headphone Amp BB 85
Speakers - Monitor Audio Silver RX2
Cables - NVA LS1+LS3, SSC, Gotham S/PDIF, IBRA Optical
Digital - NAD C516BEE, SONY ST-SDB900 DAB TUNER, TEAC UD-H01 DAC
Analogue - Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB, Graham Slee Gram Amp 2 Phono
Cans - Grado SR80, ATH-M50X
Speakers - Monitor Audio Silver RX2
Cables - NVA LS1+LS3, SSC, Gotham S/PDIF, IBRA Optical
Digital - NAD C516BEE, SONY ST-SDB900 DAB TUNER, TEAC UD-H01 DAC
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Re: DAC to the Future
Asus Tinker Board S and aluminium casing ordered, also getting an Inakustik Excellence USB cable to go with it.
https://www.in-akustik.de/en/cables-and ... 006700005/
https://www.in-akustik.de/en/cables-and ... 006700005/
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Re: DAC to the Future
Nice one. For a cheap upgrade try powering the ATB from a Power Bank rather than the wall-wart. It needs 5v at 3A. You do have to remember to keep the Power Bank charged though.Fretless wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:32 pm Asus Tinker Board S and aluminium casing ordered, also getting an Inakustik Excellence USB cable to go with it.
https://www.in-akustik.de/en/cables-and ... 006700005/
Amps - NVA P50, AP30, A40, Stanislav Palo Tube Headphone Amp BB 85
Speakers - Monitor Audio Silver RX2
Cables - NVA LS1+LS3, SSC, Gotham S/PDIF, IBRA Optical
Digital - NAD C516BEE, SONY ST-SDB900 DAB TUNER, TEAC UD-H01 DAC
Analogue - Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB, Graham Slee Gram Amp 2 Phono
Cans - Grado SR80, ATH-M50X
Speakers - Monitor Audio Silver RX2
Cables - NVA LS1+LS3, SSC, Gotham S/PDIF, IBRA Optical
Digital - NAD C516BEE, SONY ST-SDB900 DAB TUNER, TEAC UD-H01 DAC
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I do have a suitable power-bank. Also a couple of 5V linear PSU's. Will be a fun bit of hobbying trying everything out.
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Re: DAC to the Future
The most difficult bit of "hobbying" will probably be assembling the case and getting the ATB safely into it, everything else should be irritatingly easy.
p.s. The heatsinks are included for a reason, although the ATB doesn't seem run hot when used as a streamer.
Amps - NVA P50, AP30, A40, Stanislav Palo Tube Headphone Amp BB 85
Speakers - Monitor Audio Silver RX2
Cables - NVA LS1+LS3, SSC, Gotham S/PDIF, IBRA Optical
Digital - NAD C516BEE, SONY ST-SDB900 DAB TUNER, TEAC UD-H01 DAC
Analogue - Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB, Graham Slee Gram Amp 2 Phono
Cans - Grado SR80, ATH-M50X
Speakers - Monitor Audio Silver RX2
Cables - NVA LS1+LS3, SSC, Gotham S/PDIF, IBRA Optical
Digital - NAD C516BEE, SONY ST-SDB900 DAB TUNER, TEAC UD-H01 DAC
Analogue - Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB, Graham Slee Gram Amp 2 Phono
Cans - Grado SR80, ATH-M50X