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Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:57 pm
by Geoff.R.G
TheMadMick wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:13 pm
valvesRus wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:54 pm
Daniel Quinn wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:51 pm You pays your money, you take your pick
Indeed, but it's not actually an answer to the question. ;)
The sides are fluted to allow heat dissipation from these output transistors to stop them frying.:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
The sides are fluted to increase the surface area to allow greater heat dissipation than would be the case without it.

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:38 pm
by Hemmo1969
So back to the questions in hand.....

So if you read the excerpt below, what then is or the benefit of;
Polypropylene capacitors
K-Power reserve capacitors
An output stage using 4 x 160w Sanken output transistors. Are Sanken even a good brand.
And secondly looking inside said Amplfier there just one big trodial transformer? Is this really the best way 1 x big I thought NVA Amps had multiples of on either input or output?

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:42 pm
by Daniel Quinn
The 1st bit is marketing. And the 2nd, you are wrong about nva.

P40 is one 100va per unit, the stereo p60 as on
1 160va.

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:59 pm
by Hemmo1969
Daniel Quinn wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:42 pm The 1st bit is marketing. And the 2nd, you are wrong about nva.

P40 is one 100va per unit, the stereo p60 as on
1 160va.
Thanks Daniel

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:51 am
by Daniel Quinn
Though tempting, my word should not be taken as gospel.

Some people will tell you the make of capacitor or output transformer is important. Either decide for yourself or stop worrying about it and listen to your amps.

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 am
by savvypaul
Daniel Quinn wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:51 am Though tempting, my word should not be taken as gospel.

Some people will tell you the make of capacitor or output transformer is important. Either decide for yourself or stop worrying about it and listen to your amps.
The make is irrelevant, quality and synergy is important.

We tried out 5 different load resistors for the preamp upgrades - the most expensive was one of the least liked.

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:08 am
by Daniel Quinn
Load resistors, I didn't mention. Can't say empirically - yet- but intuitively they may well make a difference.

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:10 am
by valvesRus
Daniel Quinn wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:51 am
Though tempting, my word should not be taken as gospel.

Some people will tell you the make of output transformer is important.
On a valve amplifier having a better quality of output transformer can make a HUGEimprovement to the sound quality.

Unfortunately, better output transformers are mostly much more expensive.

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:32 am
by Daniel Quinn
I didn't mention transformers or valve amps, except were I put transformer and obviously meant transistor.

I have no wish to play about with differing types of colouration. Colour choice I leave to decorating.

Re: Amps - Whats in em and why?

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:49 am
by valvesRus
Daniel Quinn wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:32 am
I didn't mention transformers or valve amps.

Quote "Some people will tell you the make of output transformer is important."
You most certainly did Daniel, what amps have "output transformers" apart from valve based ones ?