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A difficult decision was never made less difficult by delaying. Johnson was told by SAGE on 21st September that a 2 week circuit break was needed to slow transmission and to stop hospitals being overwhelmed. The situation looks very grim, now. Likely 80,000 plus deaths over this winter.
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Take a look at this chart (Financial Times).

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-global ... e2.svg
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karatestu wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:02 pm
Take a look at this chart (Financial Times).

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-global ... e2.svg
A world beating performance from Boris & Co, truly wondrous examples of British Exceptionalism.
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karatestu wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:02 pm
Take a look at this chart (Financial Times).

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-global ... e2.svg
Exactly. Johnson's dithering has given us the worst of both worlds. High death rate, fucked economy.
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So we ''lockdown'' again to prevent the spread of C19. Then when we gradually ''come out of lockdown'', will C19 accelerate again? what do we do the 3rd time the NHS can't cope? Lockdown again? Is there some other route they should be exploring?
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Boris has put back his press conference an hour to 5pm. DC must still be writing his speech.
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Can anyone explain how Robert Peston was just able to tweet this...
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These are the measures to be announced by the PM at 5, as I understand it. They will last [until] 2 December. And they are, In effect, a new “Tier 4” that will be imposed for a month initially to the whole of England.

1) All pubs and restaurants to close, though takeaways and deliveries will be permitted.
2) All non-essential retail to close, though supermarkets won't have to follow the Welsh example of fencing off non-essential goods.
3) There will be no mixing of people inside homes, except for childcare and other forms of support.
4) Manufacturing and construction will be encouraged to keep going.
5) Outbound international travel will be banned, except for work.
6) Travel within the UK will be discouraged, except for work.
7) Overnight stays away from home will be allowed only for work purposes.
8) Courts, schools, and universities will remain open.
9) Outdoor exercise and recreation will be encouraged.
10) Private prayer will continue in places of worship, but not services.

It all starts at one second past midnight on Thursday. The regulations will be published on Tuesday, and MPs will vote on them on Wednesday. One source told me to consider the regulations as a Tier 4 for the whole of England. After 2 December, the exit strategy is that different parts of the country will then have their local economies and behaviour governed by the existing Tiers, namely Tiers 1 to 3, depending on how serious the virus is in these respective places.
...a good hour before the official announcement? Yet another official "leak" I'm guessing.

Yet again the conservatives are ignoring proper parliamentary procedure under the guise of the powers granted to them (by themselves) due to the emergency situation, for which they are largely to blame, and using the press to pre-empt official announcements.

Kay Burley has chimed in with some of the same info now.
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I went to my barber today. Earlier this month he closed for 2 weeks after a chap whose hair he cut a couple of days before, phoned him to say that he had got a positive Coronavirus test. The barber was not contacted by anyone from track and trace. If his customer had not contacted him then he would have been none the wiser and would have subsequently come into close contact with scores of customers in the following two weeks. Fortunately, he did the right thing, but to his possible cost...because he was not contacted by track and trace, he has been told that he cannot claim the £500 business compensation payment.
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Conference was due at 1600, now looking like 1900. Johnson should be sober by then.

Dido Harding has contacted 58% of the cabinet to question them about the leak.
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karatestu wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:06 pm
Boris has put back his press conference an hour to 5pm. DC must still be writing his speech.
Unfortunately I expect that's exactly what is happening and DC will in parallel be pressuring the experts to fall inline and agree with what ever is said.
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