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That takes us back to earlier in the discussion that started this. 100 years ago there was no opposite to matter until we discovered anti matter. At the moment in our perception the opposite to time is death, but I believe at some point in the future we will discover anti-time of some sort, same with gravity. The nearest we have to that is the energy expulsion from the sun as that defies gravity. So it may turn out the opposite of gravity is nuclear expansion, at the moment in our sun the conversion or hydrogen to helium. Poor substitute for anti gravity so I think it must be out there somewhere, maybe it powers the expansion of the universe which is supposed to be a product of the big bang. So maybe the dichotomy of bigbang and gravity

We have a dichotomy for the results of time, past (history) and future.

We also have a dichotomy for the results of gravity, light and heavy.

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To quote one of out learned members "bollocks"

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Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:50 pm That takes us back to earlier in the discussion that started this. 100 years ago there was no opposite to matter until we discovered anti matter. At the moment in our perception the opposite to time is death, but I believe at some point in the future we will discover anti-time of some sort, same with gravity. The nearest we have to that is the energy expulsion from the sun as that defies gravity. So it may turn out the opposite of gravity is nuclear expansion, at the moment in our sun the conversion or hydrogen to helium. Poor substitute for anti gravity so I think it must be out there somewhere, maybe it powers the expansion of the universe which is supposed to be a product of the big bang. So maybe the dichotomy of bigbang and gravity

We have a dichotomy for the results of time, past (history) and future.

We also have a dichotomy for the results of gravity, light and heavy.
I think you're reaching a bit there Doc! :lol:

I am a great believer in balance, (where applicable) in my work and use the yin and yang symbol in my company logo, I'm never going to try to make it into a universal though for the reasons I've already given.

It's true that antimatter has been observed, but only fleetingly and under controlled high-energy conditions. There is no proof that it exists in equal measure to ordinary matter per se.

Dark matter on the other hand is by it's nature unobservable, and depending on what you read could actually make up the vast majority of the universe. Either that or the cosmological constant is wrong!
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Lurcher300b wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:17 pm To quote one of out learned members "bollocks"
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I exist therefore I am, anti matter exist therefore it is. Of course there are not large quantities of it, we would not be here otherwise - the universe would have blown up, but it exists somewhere it has to. So perhaps I should carry on reaching out a bit seeing as I have started. We have a universe that is made up largely of matter and energy (ultimately the same thing). So how about a anti universe maybe 180deg out of phase with this one that is made up of anti matter and anti energy (to invent a new substance), who knows, I definitely don't, but I am willing to imagine it!!!! Small amounts manage to bleed across, perhaps that is what black holes are doing. Or perhaps another universe physically in space outside of ours that if it ever comes in contact with us the two will destroy each other, another possibility for the imagination.

All I know as a feeling and as an imperative within me is we are a product of imbalance, a product of a universal dichotomy, that may be temporary, caused by the big bang, that in our terms will take an infinite amount of time to re-achieve balance. Within that universe every small part of it including us as individuals desires that balance but cannot resist exploring the imbalances - we follow our path (tao) of our own making until balance is achieved at death. Perhaps the universe achieves its own balance eventually in its own death.

As humans and most other life forms we are a product of the dichotomy of male and female, and yes there are people on that line nearer the centre of it, but they can't have babies naturally. Without that dichotomy the human race doesn't exist.

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Interesting.

I always shy away from the "spiritual" stuff even though it probably fills some need within us (I think Desmond Morris called it Neoteny - a desire for some sort of organising force)

Perhaps there is a multi-dimensional reality which is subtly out of phase with our universe: certainly you're not the first one to suggest it.

Interestingly Steven Hawking has just announced a video covering his newer work around what might have happened before the Big Bang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFcQuEw0oY8
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There is absolutely nothing spiritual in what I am saying, why the hell do you think so, I have no religion, I decry all religion, I wish all religions could be banned from the human race, they do nothing but create harm and evil and divide us. Philosophy is not spiritual, that is like calling socialism spiritual.

You should not make presumptions, I said at the beginning Taoism is a philosophy, of natural balance and finding your path. Religious Taoism pays lip service to the philosophy but in fact is just a rather pagan orientated worship of powerful spirits and ancestors. An interesting offshoot of philosophical Taoism combined with Buddhism is Zen that emerged in Japan. Tao in Chinese means path in its most accepted translation.

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I am not a scientist, and reading the guff on this thread, neither is anyone else.

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And that means we shouldn't have an opinion or ideas or discuss it, does it.

Without tangental thought and "what if" science wouldn't exist.

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joe wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:05 pm I am not a scientist, and reading the guff on this thread, neither is anyone else.
Engineering is applied physics.

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