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Little seems to be understood about this period, that started with great aims and hopes and ended with corruption and dictatorship and back to the monarchy. It was the worlds first modern Republic. France claims the invention of the Republic, not true, the principles were established in the Commonwealth of England under the leadership of Cromwell after the Civil War.

The idea was then resurrected as a way of maintaining British control and influence as the British Empire ended as embodied in the British Commonwealth idea developed from the imperial conferences. A specific proposal was presented by Jan Smuts (South Africa) in 1917 when he coined the term "the British Commonwealth of Nations". The original purpose was political but slowly morphed into a cultural identity for all ex Empire countries who largely maintained The British Parliamentary Way of democracy. It is bound mostly by language, as either main or second language. It is bound by UK emigration and the creation of the Dominions, of which the USA is still a fringe member, something though they will never admit.

We have always fought for independence from the rule of Europe (who ever at the time dictated, be it Napoleon, or the Kaiser, or Hitler, and now Brussels), we have been trying the Napoleon Way with our membership of the EU, but it is simply not the British Way. So is it time yet again to recreate the Commonwealth of Nations for trade, people and cultural normality. Let us face it we have already become that as a nation as a Fait Accompli, due too immigration from the Commonwealth, we have their cultures embedded within our (so called) multicultural society, so we are finally simply acknowledging reality. Nothing is perfect though, still some cultures are severely brainwashed and need to grow up and out of the middle ages, such as the Muslim community, but time changes all, hopefully.

2018 starts our new national future, we need to recreate the Commonwealth as a full reality as opposed to the shadow it has become because of the EU. It will have much to contribute to the world.

The problem was Oliver Cromwell. He went too far for most in executing a king plus virtually banned merriment in enforcing puritism. That pissed of both persecuted catholics and protestants alike. Also his followers did a lot of cultural damage. Visit a medieval Cathedral and you will see defaced statues. Unfortunately another bad case of politics getting mixed up with extreme religious ideas. After the restoration Cromwell's remains were dug up and kicked around the street! That just showed how popular the so called commonwealth was. At least it started some form of democracy in which the king was no longer all powerful. Not a model to be compared with Brexit. Of course by getting an unpleasant dictatorship out of the way early in history we actually ensured the preservation of a monarchy.

Yes the religious nature of it was daft but that was the latter middle ages, daft about religion, but the political principle had merit. Remember why Cromwell has a bad press, because the Royalists won, they lost the war, but won the peace, and the victors write the history. Charles II was an even bigger knob head than Charles I. In the end the monarchy worked because we got some nondescript German to come and do it who didn't offend either side or any gang of conflicting loyalists. Remember the English throne was always up for grabs from people who thought it was theirs, and those loyalties ran deep, white rose / red rose etc. For some reason we always thought we needed a King or Queen, so some fat German knob who couldn't even speak English was perfect, just to stay out of the way so the conflict could pass to political groupings, eventually political parties.

Remember that the Tory group were the monarchists, and the Whig group (now liberals) were the parliamentarians. They were all either business, trade (Whig) or the Lords minor and land owners (Tory). When the serfs / factory slaves finally woke up that created the Labour and Co-operative groups.

16th of May 1649 The act that created The Commonwealth.

Be it Declared and Enacted by this present Parliament and by the Authority of the same, That the People of England, and of all the Dominions and Territories thereunto belonging, are and shall be, and are hereby Constituted, Made, Established, and Confirmed to be a Commonwealth and Free-State: And shall from henceforth be Governed as a Commonwealth and Free-State, by the Supreme Authority of this Nation, The Representatives of the People in Parliament, and by such as they shall appoint and constitute as Officers and Ministers under them for the good of the People, and that without any King or House of Lords.

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Perhaps we should have stuck to it.

House Of Lords should go. The appointed lot are even worse than the inherited lot (real Lords).

Classicrock wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:58 am House Of Lords should go. The appointed lot are even worse than the inherited lot (real Lords).

Not so long ago I would agree. Now I'm not so sure with the rag bag lot we have in the Commons.