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Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:20 pm
by Lotus Seven S
The alternative is anarchy....
Agreed!

But there would still be need of One Rule: Do not behave in any way, so we need to make up another rule.

Moderation by self-responsibility tacitly supported by collective agreement.

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:28 pm
by savvypaul
There is no authority but yourself...

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:29 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
And there you have debate again, it all goes around in a circle i.e. the logical fallacy of circular argument (circulus in demonstrando) :geek:

Blame the Ancient Greeks, they started creating the rules in order to bring society out of anarchy. Or in fact to create society.

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:38 pm
by savvypaul
Lotus Seven S wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:10 pm Compromise is always a DEAL - something for something - a win/win situation - and never the result of logical argument.
I agree, in my experience. But logic can be applied to the practical consequences of emotions and vested interests in order to achieve a deal.

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 pm
by savvypaul
savvypaul wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:28 pm There is no authority but yourself...
...and no-one else to blame.

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:56 pm
by savvypaul
Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:14 pm The alternative is anarchy. I must admit I am a bit of an anarchist. I think we have gone too far, a bit of anarchy now and then does us good, it opens possibilities and alternatives.
Anarchy, to me, means that everyone takes responsibility for their own actions and the consequences to others. It also involves doing something about the things we won't tolerate rather than just accepting...believing that our lives can be better

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:02 pm
by Daniel Quinn
Anarchy is selfish and idiotic

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:10 pm
by savvypaul
Daniel Quinn wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:02 pm Anarchy is selfish and idiotic
Not my version ;)

Anarchy doesn't prohibit cooperation, quite the opposite

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:00 pm
by Daniel Quinn
Consensual anarchy does'nt exsist

Re: Boring ?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:07 pm
by Dr Bunsen Honeydew
DQ you call yourself a communist, yet if you went to a commune here in the UK (Israel is different) just about to a person they would call themselves anarchists, are they wrong to do that.