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Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:57 am
by Daniel Quinn
Read the interview with the doc, he hated capacitors

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:34 pm
by 29mile
See Richard's post from DIY amplifier build below which I think confirms Tomasz's view :

Re: Another DIY SS Amplifier with NVA Boards
Post by Dr Bunsen Honeydew » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:44 pm

For me a production cost increase of £20 for the benefit was not justified. I only tried the DNM split films way back.

Cheaper main caps and using bypasses was more cost effective.

I am 90% sure these caps were fitted originally on the A60 given the way they have been mounted. There was no space just after the main smoothing caps to fit them so I think they were fitted above the boards instead.

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:36 pm
by Daniel Quinn
That is specific comments on necessary caps, I fail to see how it supports Thomasz view. Again read the philophical discussion about caps in the interview.

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:41 pm
by Daniel Quinn
On the nva amp boards there are only 3 caps, all 100uf or less. That is the least you'll find except for quad 405.

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:21 pm
by Vinyl-ant
Nelson pass f5 has no caps in the circuit other than the psu caps. It's a very simple circuit to look at, but as usual it's not so simple as it looks.
Some valve amp circuits can get away with none such as a drd type topology, some se designs can have as few as 3, cathode bypass caps on the input and output valves and a coupling cap between stages. If there is enough gain, it's possible to do it with one coupling cap. Wether you would want to is another matter.
There are probably other examples

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:15 pm
by Daniel Quinn
Valve, no. Nelson pass hmmmm. Can you purchase the boards.

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:02 pm
by Vinyl-ant
Yes I believe they are still being made via DIY audio. there are 2 available I think, the standard nominally 25w version and a 'turbo' version with more power. You can also get the psu cap boards for them

There are a couple of other pass boards available, the aleph j and I think the band camp board, I dont know what the circuit is with those boards though and I haven't heard them

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:27 pm
by Daniel Quinn
Thanks, I'll take a look

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:49 pm
by savvypaul
Daniel Quinn wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:57 am Read the interview with the doc, he hated capacitors
Tomasz interviewed Richard 5 days a week for the best part of 3 years...

Re: Pre & Power

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:41 pm
by Daniel Quinn
Richard never indicated he change is view. In fact he was always referring to that interview.

however there may be a language issue here. Richard said the only good component was no component. So he hated them all. But you have to use them to design. The fact remains he used a circuit with very few in, because he was aware they fucked up the sound.

Furthermore Richard was talking about power supply caps, when he offered the advise reffered to, by thomasz. You have to use power supply caps.