Yes but we have largely grown out of it, they haven't. Once again it has all been covered in past posts in the thread. Read the thread about the Paris attacks as well. The main point of this and that discussion is no religion - no problem. I suspect many Muslims would suggest that they have "g...

Fretless - Then why are they being trained and encouraged by *some* Immans in *some* Mosques. Please define "some" in percentage terms. 0.0001%...? 99.9999? Perhaps you should read the two threads before you try misplaced sarcasm. No one knows, obviously, that is the point. The security s...

Because it is an *interpretation* of the Koran that has been used regularly throughout history to justify this behaviour. I recommend you read the Koran. Christians don't do to badly either mind. God and his followers kill well over 2 million people in righetous / jealous / wrathful acts of violenc...

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote:Fretless - Then why are they being trained and encouraged by *some* Immans in *some* Mosques.

Please define "some" in percentage terms. 0.0001%...? 99.9999?

Personally I believe that it is a hell of a lot more than 2% that are involved. Ok, it may only be the 2% who are actually beheading innocent human beings, but if you include ALL those complicit in these actions, right down to the local community members who may have heard something but say nothing...

EXACTLY! they think of themselves as a community, well it is time they did some house cleaning, or perhaps they don't want to :x I certainly intend to give the waiter at my local Bangladeshi restaurant a very hard time about why he didn't do more to prevent the Paris attacks, the next time I see him.

Daniel Quinn wrote:Arsehats , Freedom = truth .

Short answer "yes" with an "if..."; long answer "no" with a "but...".
It's certainly a good invitation to define both terms.
I'll pass on it tho.
Cheers.

the rewriting of history is what of course Winston Smith did in 1984. Sorry, except in the most general terms, I don't see a meaningful parallel between the goings-on in 1984 and this situation. In vaguely general terms, I certainly do value freedom more than I do the permanence of posts on a hifi ...

Essentially the freedom arguments appears to be I wish to have the freedom to say what i want for as long as i want , but i wish to retain the freedom to alter what i said without notice or trace for as long as i want . Well I'd imagine that's one part of it. Free adult members would be at liberty ...

I would think the reaction at AoS to booting someone who *can't* comply with one of his daft invented rules would stop even him doing it. He has lost or booted enough members already and a lot of them end up here to haunt him :mrgreen: Credibility (what little is left) is at stake here, it is the t...