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Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:25 pm MC, I am still thinking about it, more comment please.

I am in agreement with your original thought, you should have no contact with it. If you chose to accept it in part exchange do as you suggested and get it delivered to a member you trust and go from there.

I am with Geoff.R.G - do not touch it - have it send to others if you want but make sure it never comes anywhere near you - you will still be accused of messing with it though I am sure or asking somebody else to mess it up on purpose...

In all seriousness, don't bother with it. Let Jez summon up the guts to start sending his loan unit to bake-offs, for himself. In the meantime, people can make up their own minds about his refusal to do so.

I am told now by the owner it is MM/MC with switch.

I don't think you stand to gain anything from dragging his equipment through the mire. Forget it. If anyone chooses to buy one of his stages without taking up your 30 day trial more fool them, let them live with it. The fact that he refuses to make it available for bake-off Should provide all the proof anyone would need that it can't hold it's own against your gear.

The point is that there are none available for comparison or Bake-Off. So he can tell what ever lies he likes, and is doing it.

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:02 pm The point is that there are none available for comparison or Bake-Off. So he can tell what ever lies he likes, and is doing it.

His refusal to send his loan unit for bake-offs tells it's own story...he only wants it compared to the stock Cambridge unit. Comparison to NVA has been done by members here and the results have been conclusive; the Arkless is not in the same league.

I'm all for showing him up, but he's doing a grand job of that himself, as it is.

I think it should be compared. If some of the non tech members try it I think most will take their comments as genuine. I am not prepared to assume it is crap on the say so of others and have actually heard it in a system that produced a fairly decent mid-fi sound using an SL1200 with Rega arm (Scalford). How else are we going to counteract the claims made on AOS which some uninformed people may believe. So many buy based on forum bias and myth.

I side with the don't touch it school of thought - no mater how you go about any "trade deal" there will be people who will twist any outcome of an unfavourable report (one of the Doc's stooges... blah blah blah). You don't need the "aggro"

Let the current owner try to sell on ebay ~£150 (I checked a recent sale price on this) or get him to offer it on AOS - could go for more on there given the high regard that his designs are held in on AOS.
The owner could give his reason for selling as "trading up to NVA phono"

(Just thought of an alternative - you could adapt it to work with a better power supply)

So you want to sit back and let the AOS dissers win?