Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

All general audio posts go here.
User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9320
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1510 times
Been thanked: 2300 times
Netherlands

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Fretless »

That clamp looks good and appears better made than the one I have.

The knob and grip of the Dynavox clamp are plastic, so I wonder how long that will last. We'll see.

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9320
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1510 times
Been thanked: 2300 times
Netherlands

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Fretless »

I managed to trash the Grado Green stylus - that'll teach me to be more careful.

So. There is an 8MZ stylus (entry-level for the Signature range) here and I had it on the Logic for a while, do know that it is a sonic upgrade.

No time like the present and in it goes. Immediately there is a new sense of sharpness and clarity, the 3D effect is more tangible. Also I have switched off the low-cut filter as this stylus has a far tighter control of the bass-end.

A year ago I was running the best possible digital rig that I could conceive of. Now a basic TT is running rings around it - the world is mad.
These users thanked the author Fretless for the post (total 2):
antonio66 (Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:06 am) • karatestu (Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:42 am)

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

User avatar
CN211276
Posts: 6547
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:29 am
Location: Cardiff
Has thanked: 1423 times
Been thanked: 987 times
EUROPEAN_UNION

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by CN211276 »

Fretless wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:12 am

A year ago I was running the best possible digital rig that I could conceive of. Now a basic TT is running rings around it - the world is mad.
It certainly is mad with opinions and set ups being so divergent. :lol: The enthusiast who visited me earlier in the week did not appear to have any vinyl set up. His source is Spotty and CD, which I'm sure would not sound as good as your digital set up, through Spendors now retailing for little short of 6K driven by Exposure amps.
These users thanked the author CN211276 for the post:
Fretless (Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:42 am)
Main System
NVA BMU, P90SA/A80s (latest spec), Cube 1s, TIS, TISC(LS7)
Sonore OpticalRendu, Chord Mscaler & Qutest, Sbooster PSs
Network Acoustics Eno, ifi iPurifier3, AQ JB FMJ, Cisco 2940 & 2960
DH Labs ethernet, BNC & USB cables, Lindy cat 6 US ethernet cable

Second System
NVA P20/ A20, Cubettes, LS3, SSP, SC
Sonore MicroRendu, Chord Mojo 2 MCRU PSs, AQ Carbon USB cable & JB FMJ

Headphones
Grado SR325e/Chord Mojo, Beyerdynamic Avetho/AQ DF Colbat

RIP Doc

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9320
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1510 times
Been thanked: 2300 times
Netherlands

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Fretless »

I certainly won't claim that ANY of my several TT or Digi rigs are the ultimate in purist-audiophile quality, but they are enjoyable and satisfying to me.

Having never really been one for measurements or specs, what matters is the involvement with the music. Emotion, feeling, being. It's a drug and when you have experienced it, you just want MORE!

:confusion-helpsos:

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9320
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1510 times
Been thanked: 2300 times
Netherlands

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Fretless »

Image

Holy schamoley! This is sounding very fine. Even a battered 2nd-hand copy of SEBTP is shining on this deck.

Had to switch the rumble filter back on but the ART phono is still giving Mike Rutherford plenty of low-end presentation.

Buggered stylus - fortunate accident. :dance:

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9320
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1510 times
Been thanked: 2300 times
Netherlands

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Fretless »

antonio66 wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:57 am Missed off the link from the above post https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175009115257
On close inspection of the Amazon photos this looks pretty well identical to what I have, apart from the logo.

Interested to hear what you think of it. Mine certainly does the job!
These users thanked the author Fretless for the post:
antonio66 (Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:06 pm)

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9320
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1510 times
Been thanked: 2300 times
Netherlands

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Fretless »

A question for the hard-bitten Vinyl Veterans:

Cambridge Alva Solo
MM phono stage - any good?

Word on the Web is that it has the edge on the Schiit Mani (which isn't available at the moment, anyway).
Shouldn't break the bank either.

:music-listen:


Image

Image

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

User avatar
Latteman
Posts: 1222
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:20 pm
Location: S. Yorkshire
Has thanked: 555 times
Been thanked: 299 times
Contact:
Great Britain

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Latteman »

What are u searching for with a phono stage?- like most I’ve had a long list of stages including several valve, the best of which was the Les carpenter modded Yaqin MS23B then Croft.
The Mani was good too but the Nva still my go to stage
There is an older Nva pre power on eBay with built in phono stage like u already have if I remember
Cheers peter
These users thanked the author Latteman for the post:
Fretless (Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:28 am)
Analogue Source -
Denon DP47f; AT-VM95SH
GL-59; ARB uni pivot; AT- Signet
Ifi Zen Phono
Doug Self balanced Pre amp
Akai 4000DS mk2 R2R
Digital Sources- Argon Pi4 v2; IfI iUSB 3.0, Ifi Neo idsd Dac;
Tidal / Radio Paradise
Amplification Nva 300va mono blocks
Speakers Lii Audio F-15 in Open Baffle; Ls6
Weiduka AC8.8- for digital sources
Mini BMU for analog sources

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9320
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1510 times
Been thanked: 2300 times
Netherlands

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Fretless »

As I have an NVA phono / PSU in use, that is perfect for my main system. What I am looking for is something that will give me a more 'refined' performance with the Pro-Ject (roughly equivalent to a Rega P2) and is affordable (up to about €200).

The 'Cambridge sound' is appealing to me and I can get hold of one fairly easily here.

Can't find that NVA amp on my Ebay - might be UK only.

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

User avatar
Latteman
Posts: 1222
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:20 pm
Location: S. Yorkshire
Has thanked: 555 times
Been thanked: 299 times
Contact:
Great Britain

Re: Cartridge for Pro-Ject Debut II

Unread post by Latteman »

I liked musical Fidelity phono stages- that is refined- usually via their integrated amps- the x ray was uninspiring
Analogue Source -
Denon DP47f; AT-VM95SH
GL-59; ARB uni pivot; AT- Signet
Ifi Zen Phono
Doug Self balanced Pre amp
Akai 4000DS mk2 R2R
Digital Sources- Argon Pi4 v2; IfI iUSB 3.0, Ifi Neo idsd Dac;
Tidal / Radio Paradise
Amplification Nva 300va mono blocks
Speakers Lii Audio F-15 in Open Baffle; Ls6
Weiduka AC8.8- for digital sources
Mini BMU for analog sources

Post Reply