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Re: It's all been said before

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Fretless wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:54 am
The technical stuff is a fun hobby but it's the tunes that matter - that's why I/we go to absurd lengths to make sure everything sounds just so. Because it has to.
But does it have to? I got as much, if not more, enjoyment out of listening to the pirate stations on my little transistor radio when I was a kid, as I do now with two or three grand's-worth of hifi pumping (some of the same) tunes out.

Music has never been "about" the hifi for me, that's just a bit of a bonus really. Music is about the time, the place, the mood, the memories, it's about hearts swelling, hearts aching, and hearts breaking.

If music suddenly didn't exist any more I'd be inconsolable. If "hifi" was banished from the world I'd probably have a little transistor radio again listening to everything in glorious mono, and honestly, I think I'd be happy once I'd come to terms with the sea change in listening habits.

I might try and stretch it to a DAB radio these days though; for the variety, not the quality you understand. :lol:
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Ive had an interesting week in terms of music. Been decorating. hasnt been done for ten years so i thought doing it was abit early yet, but she who must be obeyed was of a different opinion.
So the system had to be removed apart from the speakers which have just been shuffled around the room.
So a week of youtube music played on the wifes phone.

Cant say ive particularly missed having the system......
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slinger wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:40 am



I might try and stretch it to a DAB radio these days though; for the variety, not the quality you understand. :lol:
Well worth getting. I always have Planet Rock playing my favourite tunes when I'm in the shower. :grin:
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slinger wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:40 am I might try and stretch it to a DAB radio these days though; for the variety, not the quality you understand. :lol:
Some time back I mentioned Boppin Bob (Bob Jones) a mastering engineer. I remember sitting in a friends lounge discussing DAB with him. He was far from impressed with it and said we had adopted the wrong system (I now agree). I have DAB in my car but the facility that links DAB stations to FM stations is disabled. DAB may sound marvellous in a good reception area with a decent aerial but on the move FM wins hands down. For me it is about a continuous service, nothing spoils a symphony more than a couple of minutes loss of signal.

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The thing I like about HFS is that it's not about should I buy this or that bit of kit. I particularly enjoy different members journeys into digital excellence, and as for the DIY adventures of one particular member I have to say I'm in awe.

There are plenty of people who um and arr about decisions/purchases and appear to need vindication on the interweb from nameless people whom they've mostly never met with agendas that can only be guessed at. Here it seems to be about people who have thought, I wonder what happens if I try this, or add/take away that etc, and then report back on their findings for good or ill. I much prefer that because its people talking about their systems and how this or that change has worked for them. I don't think I have seen anyone say 'Yup I've tried this upgrade and yes indeed it is the new Messiah and anyone who doesn't get on board is a complete knuckle head'. They may suggest introducing this or that bit of kit into the equation but it always seems to be on the basis of suck it and see how it works in your house, in your system with your ears and your music.

On that basis I have tried a few of things I would never have known about without this forum, most have helped the music, as for those that didn't, I knew it was a possibility, so no worries their.
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Geoff.R.G wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:22 pm I have DAB in my car but the facility that links DAB stations to FM stations is disabled...
Daft question(s), Geoff, is it deliberately disabled by the manufacturer? Have you "Googled" the model of your radio with something like "enable DAB FM link."? Something like "Pioneer SDA-11DAB enable DAB to FM." Quite often these things are accessible via pressing some arcane selection of buttons on the unit itself. Sorry if I'm "teaching my granny to suck eggs." :lol:
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slinger wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:09 pm
Geoff.R.G wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:22 pm I have DAB in my car but the facility that links DAB stations to FM stations is disabled...
Daft question(s), Geoff, is it deliberately disabled by the manufacturer? Have you "Googled" the model of your radio with something like "enable DAB FM link."? Something like "Pioneer SDA-11DAB enable DAB to FM." Quite often these things are accessible via pressing some arcane selection of buttons on the unit itself. Sorry if I'm "teaching my granny to suck eggs." :lol:
No, the link is deliberately disabled in the menu by me because when it is enabled the radio tunes the DAB station by default and, even if the DAB signal is lost, doesn't switch back to FM.
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I think if you hang around audio boards long enough you will see this play out over and over. People enter the hobby or join the board to gain information, to share their passion for the hobby, or maybe just sharing the joy of their new to them of their new discoveries. I think this feeling represents a lot of the lifecycle that long time board members go through. After awhile they stop answering many questions, read more than post, chime in on fewer topics, and ignore many others, and then they might find something different to do. Others might hang around more, lurk and pop up and post whenever there is a thread that compels them to do so.

I personally like seeing the act of discovery by others. I know what I like for hi fi, and I pretty well got a system that meets my goals, so there is not much I need. But my journey in digital as of late proves that I don't know how to do everything successfully, and even with as long as I have been around hi fi, I got lots of stuff I can still learn. On the plus side I did find my way back to where I enjoy my digital sound, so apparently I can reason on a problem or two.

Our hobby and our passion with it will wax and wane. Its always about the music, but the gear is important because we care so much about the music we want to experience it in the best way we have available to us. Just remember its a hobby and only one part of our life. Other activities will be meaningful for us too, and sometimes they will ascend or retreat. Audio is a hobby and we should enjoy it as such, its not life and death stuff.
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Grumpytim wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:54 pm Here it seems to be about people who have thought, I wonder what happens if I try this, or add/take away that etc, and then report back on their findings for good or ill. I much prefer that...
Me, too. Compared to many places, I think it's fair to say that we are mercifully free of 'know-it-all' type gurus, but blessed by having many genuine enthusiasts with decades of experience.
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Grumpytim wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:54 pm The thing I like about HFS is that it's not about should I buy this or that bit of kit. I particularly enjoy different members journeys into digital excellence, and as for the DIY adventures of one particular member I have to say I'm in awe.

There are plenty of people who um and arr about decisions/purchases and appear to need vindication on the interweb from nameless people whom they've mostly never met with agendas that can only be guessed at. Here it seems to be about people who have thought, I wonder what happens if I try this, or add/take away that etc, and then report back on their findings for good or ill. I much prefer that because its people talking about their systems and how this or that change has worked for them. I don't think I have seen anyone say 'Yup I've tried this upgrade and yes indeed it is the new Messiah and anyone who doesn't get on board is a complete knuckle head'. They may suggest introducing this or that bit of kit into the equation but it always seems to be on the basis of suck it and see how it works in your house, in your system with your ears and your music.

On that basis I have tried a few of things I would never have known about without this forum, most have helped the music, as for those that didn't, I knew it was a possibility, so no worries their.
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I have found HFS to be an invaluable source of information and advice, althogh I do not concur with everything posted. What distinguishes this forum from some others is the lack of agendas and things are not forced down your throat. At the end of the day it is your ears in your listening room and if you like it it is good. This applies to music, which it is all about, as well as equipment. Some bands to my liking which I had not heard of have been brought to my attention.

In contrast some forums are a mine field for prespective purchasers seeking honest advice. The you scratch my back and tag team synderoms are all to prevelant and the unwary can be conned out of a lot of money. A flashy four leggged tag team has won a number of submissions and a knock out. :lol:
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