Logic DM101 - a new beginning

All general audio posts go here.
User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Fretless »

The webshop I am using recommends QSAudio fluid.

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro, Monolith & AQ

Daniel Quinn
Posts: 8586
Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:16 am
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 399 times

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Daniel Quinn »

Fretless wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:54 pm The Knosti looks to be good and affordable - I can get the 'starter pack' for under 50 euros.

Will investigate further.
I paid £128 for my ultrasonic cleaner

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Fretless »

Just cleaned an LP carefully with the Tonar Nostatic brush and it has turned what was, at first listen, a record in horrible state into something quite acceptable (for now).

Album in question is the superb 'Listen Now' by Phil Manzanera & 801.

Image

And the really bad news is, I have just discovered that there is a small second-hand record shop in my local town centre.

Time for a visit. :animals-dogrun:
These users thanked the author Fretless for the post:
karatestu (Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:16 am)

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro, Monolith & AQ

antonio66
Posts: 1006
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:16 am
Location: Grimsby/Phnom Penh
Has thanked: 1449 times
Been thanked: 408 times
Great Britain

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by antonio66 »

You'll be coming home with empty pockets :lol:

User avatar
karatestu
Posts: 5945
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:40 pm
Location: North Yorkshire
Has thanked: 1865 times
Been thanked: 1378 times
Great Britain

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by karatestu »

antonio66 wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:37 am You'll be coming home with empty pockets :lol:
And with a full shopping trolley :grin:
DIY FREE ZONE

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Fretless »

Found the record shop and am pleasantly surprised by the assortment, I can now cross a few titles off my 'wants' list.
All LPs are put through a cleaning machine before going on sale and I am now revelling in a pristine copy of 'The Snow Goose'.

Already have a list of what I want on the next visit.

:dance:
These users thanked the author Fretless for the post (total 2):
Latteman (Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:26 pm) • slinger (Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:30 pm)

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro, Monolith & AQ

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Fretless »

It has been (and still is) an exciting journey back into the world of analogue audio. The latest acquisition of a 'classic' Grado Signature MCZ cartridge is a new revelation. I never knew a turntable was capable of sounding like this!

The old Logic DM101 is still managing to surprise me and somehow I have cruelly underestimated its capabilities throughout the decades. Head firmly stuck up digital backside, I suppose.

The hiccup with the arm-lift bar on the Syrinx arm has been solved by removing the bar and using the lift mechanism as an arm-rest. Cueing by hand and using the rear-end of the arm to lift the cartridge at the end of an album side. No problemo.

The manic LP-acquisition frenzy is slowing now as I begin to accumulate many of the 'must-haves' and gradually start looking for the more difficult (expensive) items like early King Crimson. Still concentrating on the records that have left a lasting impression on me.

Picked up a newly-issued copy of John Coltrane's 'My Favourite Things' last week. This might get me heading down a Jazz rabbit-hole in the autumn: Thelonious, Blakey, Miles and so on.

I had been considering getting this old deck running again for years, was it such a good idea after all .... ?

:grin:
These users thanked the author Fretless for the post:
CycleCoach (Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:42 am)

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro, Monolith & AQ

User avatar
Neonknight
Posts: 467
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:49 am
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 54 times

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Neonknight »

Glad to hear you are enjoying the turntable. A friend of mine who was a guru at restoring those first generation AR XA turntables was a strong advocate of those high performance MCZ Grado cartridges. It looks like you are doing quite well. In regards to record cleaning if you can jump the hurdle and get a ultra sonic tank you will be very satisfied with the records you run through it. The tanks are not terribly expensive, but try to find one with a separate power supply for the heater and the US devices, those seem to be better built but cost a bit more. The trick is how to turn the records while in the tank, and some crafty people use a BBQ rotisserie motor and DIY a holding system with pucks and o-rings to space and hold the records on a metal shaft in order to rotate them through the bath. If you can DIY that part you can have a top notch record cleaning system for not a ton of money.

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Fretless »

Thanks for that NK. I think I have been very lucky with the find of the Grado MCZ.

As for cleaning LPs, that is a whole new voyage of 'disc'overy and I'll be proceeding cautiously. Thanks also to all who had given advice on this.

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro, Monolith & AQ

User avatar
Fretless
Posts: 9290
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:15 pm
Location: Somewhere in Holland
Has thanked: 1487 times
Been thanked: 2280 times
Netherlands

Re: Logic DM101 - a new beginning

Unread post by Fretless »

Considering trying out an Acrylic mat on the Logic, supposedly tightens up imaging and bass.
Wondering how that will work with the massive metal platter.

Anyone have any experience with these?

Image

Upstairs:
Vinyl
Pro-Ject 1.2 + Grado Sig Jr + Cambridge Alva Duo
DigiVolumio PC + Kiss DP-500 + Sabaj A20d
NVA: P50sa - Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a (x2)
Downstairs:
Vinyl
Logic DM101 + Syrinx LE1 + Grado Sig MCX
DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 - BMU+ Aiyima A07 MAX (x2) + Arcam One
HP: HifiBerry Digi+ PRO + Sabaj A10d
Office:
Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith THX AAA 887
Headphones: German Maestro, Monolith & AQ

Post Reply