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I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:00 pm
by slinger
Unexpected, as in, I wasn't actually looking to buy an amp, especially one of these "all singing, all dancing" affairs.

Short version: I was perusing eBay, as I often do, and was having a look at Arcam kit. I've always had a soft spot for Arcam, right back to my Alpha 2, bought new from Sevenoaks, in Sevenoaks, when they only had the one shop, which was the one in Sevenoaks. I've had an Alpha 8 and 8p combo, and an A75, and an Alpha 9 CD player that I wish I'd held onto for longer. In short, happy memories.

Damn you Peter Tyson and your "Manufacturer Refurbished - Arcam SA10" and damn you eBay for the "£75.00 off coupon" that you offered me. They're selling everywhere at between £699 - £750ish. Richer has them for £735.00 I bought mine for £450.00 delivered. Peter Tyson's website says they still have one in stock, but afaik I grabbed the last one, which is why it was a rather sudden acquisition.

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Condensed blurb:

Key Features

Extremely efficient class A/B amplification
50W of power per channel
5 analogue inputs including phono
3 digital inputs
32-bit DAC,Sabre ESS9016K2M
Full I/P control
Total harmonic distortion + noise = 0.003%
It's networked, so can be controlled (apparently) from my PC or via an app on a phone/tablet. Arcam's phono inputs have always been pretty decent, I shall have a shoot-out between the internal DAC and my Vincent. If the internal DAC proves to be a winner I can probably make most of the cost of the amp back by selling the Vincent DAC I bought a few weeks ago.

The only serious "downside" I could find from reading loads of reviews was that the bass was a bit iffy when using the analogue inputs, but (keeping my fingers crossed for the internal DAC) hopefully, I'll only be using two of the digital inputs.

In true Arcam tradition, there's a headphone socket on the front, which I expect to be decent, and if it pans out that the internal DAC is good enough then all I'll need is this amp and, eventually, a CD transport, so I can sell my Primare Amp and CD to hopefully cover the rest of the cost of the SA-10, plus a CD transport, probably a Cambridge Audio CXC.

I shouldn't have done it, but I had to do it. £450.00 was simply too good a price to turn down, and although it's "manufacturer refurbished" it will make a change from buying gear that's 5 or 10 years old.


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Annoying bloke, but an interesting look at some of the internals.


Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:40 pm
by Latteman
Noted it has a pre out- I had a similar all singing all dancing Denon- no pre out- so u have options if u are not keen on the ‘amp sound’

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:42 pm
by savvypaul
CD transports - I found the Audiolab to be a good deal better than the Cambridge for only a little extra. YMMV.

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:46 pm
by slinger
Latteman wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:40 pm Noted it has a pre out- I had a similar all singing all dancing Denon- no pre out- so u have options if u are not keen on the ‘amp sound’
The pre-out will probably be powering my sub. That's the plan, anyway.

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:10 pm
by Daniel Quinn
You could have built one for that😏

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:36 pm
by CN211276
I rate Arcam amps. Had one prior to discovering NVA.

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:38 pm
by slinger
Daniel Quinn wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:10 pm You could have built one for that😏
:lol:
I think what you may actually mean is that I could have purchased the components and then thrown away the mess I made with them.

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:05 am
by Daniel Quinn
slinger if i can do it with only my none dominant left hand working anyone can. it is very good at making your none dominant hand more dexterious..

Luther (now 7 ) is so taken with the idea he uses his none dominant hand to write with for 15 mins a day , because ive told him in 2 years he will be ambidexterious.

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:59 am
by Grumpytim
Must admit I have a soft spot for Arcam, I had a CD72 which had a better sounding DAC than the Tag Mclaren DAC that was all the rage at that time. The amp was one of the early FMj range and was pretty decent. I'm going to sort of contradict myself here, I expect the onboard DAC to be pretty good, Arcam seem to have the knack with them, but I do worry about all the extraneous network stuff in the amp. If it gave it Airplay or Chromecast streaming capability then I can see the point. You could of course argue that a built in DAC in an amp is also extra electronic clutter, but if it works well then...

Re: I just bought an unexpected amp

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:10 pm
by savvypaul
We bought a secondhand CD72 to use as a back-up at shows. Very decent.