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Fretless wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:00 am Just as an aside, this is the cable I got from Amazon. Calls itself: "6N OCC Copper Silver Plated Upgrade Audio Cable 3.5mm Jack and 6.3mm Adapter Compatible with Hifiman Sundara". Really smart with the wood-finished plugs and feels like a good-quality product. Sound Quality is excellent.

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Expecting the Monolith M1060C later today. :dance:
Wowzers! They look well made mate 😊
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Re: Time to go Planar !

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Listening has commenced ... :music-listen:

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Very nice Mr!

Looking forward to your listening impressions.
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Okay headphone fans, it is time for some thoughts and impressions on the above sets of cans while I am still discovering them.

The Monoprice M1060C, despite being considerably cheaper than the HifiMan Sundara, comes in a far more luxurious box which includes a seriously solid, round carrying case, nice! Packaging for the Sundara was rather minimalist & functional. Also the Monoprice cable would appear to be quite reasonable - haven't tried swapping it around yet, that will be an exercise for another day.

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Some reviewers have also criticised the headband & mount on the 1060C as being very basic (cheap). Which, to be fair, it is - but you can't have everything. I have no complaints about it (certainly not for the price) and the money will hopefully have been spent on the drivers and enclosure - the real-wood backs look really cool and give an up-market, solid-chic feel to the cans. They are also quite a lot heavier than the Sundara and have nice thick pads that surround the ears in a pleasing way. Sound isolation is pretty good - better than the German Maestro GMP 450 that was in place prior to these.

Soundwise: the Monolith starts off as dark and enveloping, reminding me of the rather laid-back AQ NightOwl. Big, fat, weighty bass and smooth mids really wrapping you in an audio experience. After about 10 hours burn-in the treble came up to be very detailed but never harsh. Then you realise that these are planar drivers with that airy, spacious, effortless detail and a beautifully-defined soundstage that is remarkably wide and -out-of-the-head for closed-back headphones.

Did a comparison playing JMJ's 'Equinoxe' (latest remaster, WAV ripped from CD) which the 1060C gave major Oomph to in the bass, 'Monolith' is a good name for these as the bottom end is like solid marble: heavy, subtly-defined and smooth.

Switching to the Sundara's the first thought is 'Where's the bass?"- but it is there, only differently presented. The Hifiman planars excite in another way with razor-sharp detail, massive space and airiness and a velvety enveloping sensation that lifts them into a higher level. Both are involving, exciting and penetrate to the heart of the music.

I did give the very detailed GMP 450 a go as well but even that, a highly-revealing studio monitor, sounded dull, anaemic and flabby when put alongside the Sundara.

Bottom line, for now. The Hifiman Sundara is a serious audiophile delight of space and detail. The Monolith M1060C is a truly satisfying closed-back that combines the rich darkness of the AQ NightOwl with the sharp, wide-screen definition of the GMP 450.

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Re: Time to go Planar !

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Heads-up for anyone who might be interested in the Monoprice planar headphones.

The 30% sale prices end at midnight tonight.

https://www.monoprice.uk/collections/headphones

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Damn special offers! :angry-fire:

Monolith M1070 for (only) €308.

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Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
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HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
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Re: Time to go Planar !

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Excellent write up Fretless! They look like really nice headphones - enjoy 😊🤘
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M1070 now down to €243 (was €440)

I don't know if I can put it off any longer.
Resolve crumbling ....

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It's a pity I've got tinnitus. I can't hear properly through headphones. The hash drowns out the music. Ughhh! :cry:
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Sorry to read that Mick. I get a lot of pleasure from headphones and from time-to-time they are my main listening source.
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NVA: Cube2 - SSP - LS6+ Sabaj A10a {x2)
Little Bear MC2 + AQ NightHawk
Downstairs:
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DigiDenafrips Ares II + Volumio PC + Cambridge CXC
NVA: P50 & PSU - BMUAiyima A07 MAX + Arcam One
HP: Allo DigiOne + Sabaj A10d + AQ NightOwl
Office: Allo DigiOne SIG + SMSL M300se + Douk G4 (x2)
Mission 760 + Monolith 887 + German Maestro GMP 450

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