I can hit a 50p piece with my UK legal air rifle at 30 metres. Shot after shot after shot.
AR rifles have an effective range of 400 to 600 yards.
Bolt action hunting rifles have effective ranges of 800 yards.
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
Apparently he was not let into rifle school afs he was a poor shot.
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
Trump's head is bigger than 50p.
A spinal or arterial neck hit would do the job too.
We're talking about a target area about the size of a small water melon. At 130 metres. Shooting from a stable prone position. With a rifle that's accurate to 1 MOA, which equates to shot groupings with a diameter of about 1.5 inches at 130 metres. And a muzzle velocity of 1000 metres per second equating to a bullet travel time of 0.15 seconds.
It's the equivalent of a 2 foot putt in golf. And Matthew Crooks, a member of a shooting club, fluffed it.
Is this a suicide by Secret Service agents? And not a serious attempt to snuff out the guy that talks like a cunt and wears a ginger cat on his head?
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
Something I've just heard is that the "sniper" was such a poor shot that he didn't even make his school's shooting team. Add that to the fact that people had started pointing at him and a policeman had been made aware of his presence, which he would have seen, he panicked and loosed five rounds, which is "only" half of a standard AR 15 clip. Good job(?) he hadn't fitted a "bump stock" and got a whole clip off or the damage to bystanders especially, might have been even worse.
This is from a police website, just for information
The roof was less than 150 meters (yards) from where Trump was speaking, a distance from which a decent marksman could reasonably hit a human-sized target. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which U.S. Army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M16 assault rifle in basic training.
Basically, the bloke couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
So, to feed the rumour mill, was it a false flag operation, relying on the fact that he was such a poor shot, and he actually got too close for comfort more by luck, than by judgement?
This is from a police website, just for information
The roof was less than 150 meters (yards) from where Trump was speaking, a distance from which a decent marksman could reasonably hit a human-sized target. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which U.S. Army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M16 assault rifle in basic training.
Basically, the bloke couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
So, to feed the rumour mill, was it a false flag operation, relying on the fact that he was such a poor shot, and he actually got too close for comfort more by luck, than by judgement?
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
I wouldn't make anyone's shooting team. School or otherwise. I can still nail those 50p's. Because it's easy. Not because I'm good.
Matthew Crooks may well have been an incompetent moron. But even so, how the fuck did he miss Trump's head and neck from 130 metres with an AR type rifle?
Matthew Crooks may well have been an incompetent moron. But even so, how the fuck did he miss Trump's head and neck from 130 metres with an AR type rifle?
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
If you’re not good with a rifle, missing is easy, I can do it 99% of the time (I haven't tried often enough to refine that). I dare say there are things I find easy that you can’t do at all. If we find something easy we generally don’t understand why others can’t do it.Lindsayt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:19 pm I wouldn't make anyone's shooting team. School or otherwise. I can still nail those 50p's. Because it's easy. Not because I'm good.
Matthew Crooks may well have been an incompetent moron. But even so, how the fuck did he miss Trump's head and neck from 130 metres with an AR type rifle?
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
Nope, nope, nope, nope, no!
We're not talking about something that some people find easy and other people find difficult.
We're talking about a modern precision piece of engineering. Being allowed to do something that's so far within its' comfort zone, that it's objectively easy.
In November 2023 Viacheslav Kovalskyi shot a Russian soldier at a range of 3800 metres. That's a difficult shot, requiring skill, the right conditions and some luck.
1100 metres is considered to be the threshold of long range sniping where intense training and practice are required.
130 metres is fish in a barrel range.
We're getting close to evidence that God exists (or the Devil) with Trump being alive still.
We're not talking about something that some people find easy and other people find difficult.
We're talking about a modern precision piece of engineering. Being allowed to do something that's so far within its' comfort zone, that it's objectively easy.
In November 2023 Viacheslav Kovalskyi shot a Russian soldier at a range of 3800 metres. That's a difficult shot, requiring skill, the right conditions and some luck.
1100 metres is considered to be the threshold of long range sniping where intense training and practice are required.
130 metres is fish in a barrel range.
We're getting close to evidence that God exists (or the Devil) with Trump being alive still.
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
As I said earlier, he'd been spotted, and he knew he'd been spotted, so the chances are he fired wildly and then was dead.
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Re: Taking the piss out of politics
If ever there was an example of the Devil looking after his own. Brnngs to mind the close calls Hitler had with assassination attempts.
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