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Re: Opinions on how the Government have handled the coronavirus outbreak

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Stemcor1990 wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:52 pm @CN211276

If politicians follow their brief then I’m assuming it’s to “toe the party line”. In which case who is giving the instructions and are our politicians not allowed to think for themselves ?
Rupert Murdoch, and no. ;)
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Stemcor1990 wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:52 pm @CN211276

If politicians follow their brief then I’m assuming it’s to “toe the party line”. In which case who is giving the instructions and are our politicians not allowed to think for themselves ?
Ministers provide the framwork for the lines they are given by civil servants and add the finishing touches. The accompanying brief will contain background, parts of which might not be for public domain. I suspect there is a lot which is not for public domain where Coronavirus is concered.
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I also suspect that there is a lot of information which the government does not want in the public domain because (a) it’s probability a calculation that CV19 has the potential to be much more deadly than the government wants us to believe (b) it shows that a lack of investment in the NHS is going to have devastating consequences and (c) people might start to think that the current government are not really fit to run the country. It would be refreshing if politicians were a bit more honest. The Irish pm has put his hand up and admitted mistakes have been made. That’s the kind of honesty that would win my vote.

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Politicians will put their hands up to mistakes when they perceive it will not cost them their jobs to do so.
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savvypaul wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:50 pm Politicians will put their hands up to mistakes when they perceive it will not cost them their jobs to do so.

Doesn't apply to Donald Trump,

He has just announced that the President has 'Total Power' to send America back to work when he wants to.
At the moment that is 1 May.

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Fretless wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:58 pm
savvypaul wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:50 pm Politicians will put their hands up to mistakes when they perceive it will not cost them their jobs to do so.

Doesn't apply to Donald Trump,

He has just announced that the President has 'Total Power' to send America back to work when he wants to.
At the moment that is 1 May.

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Despite the fact that the Constitution says that the States are responsible. :roll:
Still, he's never let little things like the Constitution, the truth, table manners, etc. stand in his way.
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Cabinet Minister Robert Jenrick is facing criticism for moving his family to a £1.1 million country manor during the coronavirus outbreak, despite government advice urging people not to escape to second homes.

This is the same cock who recently flouted lockdown rules by visiting his parents. He has charged taxpayers more than £100,000 for the 2nd home that he appears to use only rarely.

He left his £2.5m London house to move to a 17th-century grade I listed country house in Herefordshire amid the coronavirus crisis.

A spokesman for Jenrick said his wife and children moved there before the lockdown, but Matt Hancock, the health secretary, has said such journeys were not “necessary”.

According to reports in The Times, neighbours say he is rarely at the Herefordshire property and builders are a “regular fixture” there.

One described the claim that it was his family home as “codswallop”.

One backbencher said: “Jenrick’s position was already pretty dire, to be honest.

But to go on the radio and claim you understand what it’s like to be cooped up is an insult to my constituents who are enduring the lockdown in small flats.

Whether his family were already in that country pile of his or still in his London home, he can’t possibly say that. He really has to go.”

Another Tory MP said: “This really is stretching the definition of cooped up to farcical levels.”

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/robert-jenrick-has-claimed-100k-expenses-for-country-manor/14/04/

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that although everyone knows that there is "one rule for them and one rule for us," My Jenrick will be finding out very shortly that he has never been "us" and now, he's not "them" anymore either, because it very much sounds like the long-knives are out for Bobby Jenrick.
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Jenrick has also performed especially badly in the daily briefings that he's fronted. And, between them, they've made enough fuck ups that they need a scapegoat to release some pressure.

Yep, a resignation along the lines of 'does not accept any wrongdoing but does not wish the issue to divert from the herculean task in hand'.
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The usual "...to spend more time with my family." excuse probably won't get used this time. :lol:
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:lol:
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