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Re: The Guitar and Other Machines

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Roswell pickups are pretty decent.

I absolutely adore P90’s, by far my favourite pickup (well, a close call with a Filtertron). Nice rich tone, great bass and highs, with none of the ice pick notes that can come with tradition Tele pickups.

I had a Fender PA90 year ago. Similar setup, but with a set neck instead of a bolt neck. I’ll bet this guitar is every bit as good as that Fender.

I’ve had a few Harley Benton’s, and never found them to be anything less than great guitars.

It’s amazing what you can get for your money these days. I paid £180 for a Marlin Sidewinder in 1984. What a heap of dogsh1te that guitar was. Basically a wood-chip guitar with fridge magnets for pickups, and chewing gum for tuners.
But, for less money today (way way less if you take inflation into account), you can get a beautiful made, excellent sounding a well appointed guitar
Yay for progress.

What a time to learn guitar, excellent guitars for no money, free resources at your fingertips, all human knowledge easy to access. If I had all of this in 1984, I’d be a significantly better guitarist today.

Anyway, congrats, and hope it gives you years of pleasure. Maybe consider a good setup from a luthier though. Doesn’t cost an arm and a leg, and vastly improves playability.

All of my guitar get a pro setup at least twice a year. I suck at doing it myself.


Today, I’ve mostly been playing my Eastman T64v.
This one has Lollar P90’s. Slightly dark sounding for my taste (Monty’s 54 P90’s are my favourites), but an awesome sounding guitar non the less :)

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Re: The Guitar and Other Machines

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Thanks for that input.

I'm on a massive learning curve at the moment and have to let things sink in a bit.

There are probably folks out there thinking " Hey, this is a Hifi forum and not Guitarists World!". True, well-observed and point taken.

However, as is fairly self-evident by now, I am a music fanatic. It's my drug, it's the air that I breathe, it's what gets me through the day. The step from passive, listening Audiophile to active (amateur) music-maker is a very small one and utilises much of the same facilities.

As an audiophile, I am listening to the equipment; what does that cable do? How is the response from those speakers? And so on.

The recently-reawakened musician side of me is using precisely the same critical listening processes but applying them in a creative setting: What does that effect do? What happens when I do this on the guitar?

Both sides involve active concentration on the quality of the sound one is hearing. And a fixation on little boxes with wires and flashing lights.

Music, just music.

Audiophiles, guitarists, there is really very little that separates them.

:grin:


I'll put in some thoughts on the new guitar tomorrow. It's certainly more than I expected.

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We have plenty of HIfi chats over at the guitar forums I visit.


I rebuild turntables for guitarists friends (for free). As you’ve said, if you love music, it’s in your head and heart, if music is in your very being, then HIfi and playing and instrumental go hand in hand.
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TheMarlin wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:35 pm As you’ve said, if you love music, it’s in your head and heart, if music is in your very being, then HIfi and playing and instrumental go hand in hand.
How true.
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Okay, be warned, i'm about to go into Guitar Reviewer Mode which is a new experience for me and the chance of either tired cliches or complete gobbeldygook is quite high.

:ugeek:

From zero to two electric guitars within a period of weeks, hadn't expected it but the urge to try something new hit suddenly and has hit hard.

Firstly, my dream guitar - the Les Paul. Well okay, the cheapest copy model I could find. The Donner DLP124.

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But I struck lucky, this is a serious axe; solid, well-constructed and nicely finished. Good hardware and a rather fine set of humbucker pickups.
There is a lovely neck that combines with the small frets and flat fretboard to make this a real Rock workhorse. It invites you to play fast, kick out or do intensely cerebral Robert Fripp kind of things.

This is the guitar I wanted. It has a neutral tonal character that lends itself to the possibilities of many different styles. A bit of personalisation with new strings and knobs has made it already into something that is 'mine', feels familiar and a tool to explore sonic terrain.

But.

I then started on the road to Ambient Guitar playing. The DLP124 in my hands allowed me to crystallise the efforts I have put in for years on attempting (reasonably successfully, if I say so myself) to create this sort of music with a fretless bass.

Now I knew, what I wanted to do - this was the music I wanted to make: Fripp, Allan Holdsworth, Brian Eno, Steve Reich, David Torn. Then the unlimited powers of internet gave me a guide: Chords of Orion. A creator of ambient-style music with a prolific amount of videos including introductory lessons in how to do it right.

Step 1 - pedals. It's been a struggle but I've got the basics lined up now and am getting to terms with them. It's all about 'Tone', that is the essential, creating tone, modifying it, messing with it.

I love the natural tone of my bass and never wanted to change it. But new windows have opened, sonically, and the revelation that with an electric guitar there are limitless things you can do.

Then the realisation that different types of guitars offer different characteristics, alternative palettes with which to paint sound. A clip of Bill Vencil using a semi-acoustic told me that I needed one of those as well.

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Enter the Harley Benton TE 90QM. Is it not an utterly exquisite object? Something you could just hang on a wall as a work of art!

Truly, a breathtakingly beautiful guitar, so well-made and finished that I can hardly believe how little I paid for it. It feels like an expensive, boutique model. Quite heavy as well, about the same weight as the DLP124, despite the hollow chambers in the body.

A good, solid neck with slightly rounded fretboard and thicker frets. P90 pickups. To my inexperienced eye it all looks and feels just fantastic.

Time to plug it in. Immediately I hear that this is a very different instrument with a pronounced 'own' character, in contrast to the neutrality of the solid-body DLP. The resonance from the hollow chambers provide a liveliness to the sound with the higher notes having a bell-like quality. The warmth of the pickups adds to this and I am aware that, with some practice, this could become an extremely expressive instrument. More emotional.

One day in and this guitar has blown me away. And for just €199, incredible!

So now, armed with a tough Rock Machine on one side, an instrument capable of sensitive delicacy on the other and a battery of effects pedals to boot, I'm ready to set off into the uncharted territories of Ambient music and whatever else comes my way.

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Right. Over the initial euphoria and it's time to look a little more critically at things.

Not sure if I'm happy with the stock HB strings on the red Thinline. They're okay but I have a spare set of D'Addario's that might be better. I notice that the E-Bow worked better when I switched strings on the DLP.

Also the Behringer Super Fuzz is a big bundle of fun but I do need a more subtle overdrive. Back to Amazon for a look.

Obsessed? Yes.

Don't worry, things will settle down again soon(ish).

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Fretless wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:09 pm ...
Also the Behringer Super Fuzz is a big bundle of fun but I do need a more subtle overdrive. Back to Amazon for a look.

Obsessed? Yes.

Don't worry, things will settle down again soon(ish).

:banana-explosion:
That, basically, is the difference between a fuzz, and an overdrive. The fuzz is designed to affect your signal and electronically dirty it up, an overdrive is supposed to simulate a valve amp being overdriven until it "breaks down" signal-wise.

It's all about yer clipping, Guv.. Soft clipping is more gentle and subtle and usually found in overdrives. Hard clipping, like you get from distortion pedals, isn't so gentle. And fuzz is the most extreme of all of them.

The TC Electronic MojoMojo is decent, the Electro-Harmonix East River Drive Overdrive is another one (I'm trying to keep the price down) . The The Behringer OD300 is a combination Overdrive/Distortion pedal. There are videos of all of those on YouTube. This one looks interesting too, Demon Tube Screamer



A mate over at TAS had one of these and liked it...



My personal favourite is the Behringer VT999 "Vintage Tube Monster".

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Have ordered a Sonicake Blue Skreamer to try out.

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Sounds OK to me.
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