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Re: PMC
Here is pic of Finnish hifi enthusiast PMC Fenestra set up...
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Re: PMC
Wow they are some big speakers!!
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Re: PMC
This is the (4th order) crossover used by PMC.
It will give you a very pretty graph...and kill your music.
It will give you a very pretty graph...and kill your music.
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Re: PMC
Hi Paul,
Why do you say that?
(Trust me I'm not being argumentative, and I'm not precious, just trying to understand a bit more)
Why do you say that?
(Trust me I'm not being argumentative, and I'm not precious, just trying to understand a bit more)
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Re: PMC
Complexity.Twistedheat02 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:33 am Hi Paul,
Why do you say that?
(Trust me I'm not being argumentative, and I'm not precious, just trying to understand a bit more)
The additional components are there to address problems with the cabinet and the drive units.
Every design has compromises, of course. However, in my opinion, complex crossovers are one of the worst compromises you can make. Have a listen, in comparison, to a speaker with a 1st order crossover (or, better still, a speaker with no crossover).
Here's an article from a designer (a member here) that uses 1st order crossovers: https://www.3squareaudio.com/copy-of-1s ... e%20woofer.
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Re: PMC
Ok. Nice one Paul. I'll check that article. Cheerssavvypaul wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:47 amComplexity.Twistedheat02 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:33 am Hi Paul,
Why do you say that?
(Trust me I'm not being argumentative, and I'm not precious, just trying to understand a bit more)
The additional components are there to address problems with the cabinet and the drive units.
Every design has compromises, of course. However, in my opinion, complex crossovers are one of the worst compromises you can make. Have a listen, in comparison, to a speaker with a 1st order crossover (or, better still, a speaker with no crossover).
Here's an article from a designer (a member here) that uses 1st order crossovers: https://www.3squareaudio.com/copy-of-1s ... e%20woofer.
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Speakers :Pmc 21,
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Re: PMC
Think of a complex crossover being like a powerful painkiller - treating only the symptoms of disease, not the causes, and creating their own undesirable side-effects.Twistedheat02 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:49 amOk. Nice one Paul. I'll check that article. Cheerssavvypaul wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:47 amComplexity.Twistedheat02 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:33 am Hi Paul,
Why do you say that?
(Trust me I'm not being argumentative, and I'm not precious, just trying to understand a bit more)
The additional components are there to address problems with the cabinet and the drive units.
Every design has compromises, of course. However, in my opinion, complex crossovers are one of the worst compromises you can make. Have a listen, in comparison, to a speaker with a 1st order crossover (or, better still, a speaker with no crossover).
Here's an article from a designer (a member here) that uses 1st order crossovers: https://www.3squareaudio.com/copy-of-1s ... e%20woofer.
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Re: PMC
Put the PMCs up against a pair of Cube 1 or 2...
btw, your tip to replace the metal jumper bars is a good one.
btw, your tip to replace the metal jumper bars is a good one.
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