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Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:03 pm
by TroutFisher
slinger wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:30 pm
For once, saying "I told you so," brings no satisfaction, or pleasure, because we're all in the sane shit because the ignorant masses would rather devour sound bites than actually think for themselves and develop personal fucking opinions based on readily available facts.
That’s the problem with democracy. Everyone gets to vote, even the ‘ignorant masses’ and they make up the majority of the electorate. You’ve been a Trade Union Rep. When it came to industrial action and a vote, how much confidence did you have in the understanding your membership really had on how their vote might affect them, short and long term? Of course they devour sound bites and every politician (and Trade Union leader) knows it. They don’t have the intellectual capacity to work it out for themselves. Locking onto sound bites allows them to feel involved, informed and intelligent without having to do any of the thinking they would find mentally taxing and stressful. Of course, the lying politicians are not being democratic, but they know the ‘ignorant masses’ don’t have the gumption to work that out.
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:50 am
by Firebug1
CN211276 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:28 pm
The tariffs following a no deal Brexshite will negate that, unless production takes place in Poland. The Pound nose dived following the unlawful referendum.
Yep. Sad but true...
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:20 pm
by slinger
TroutFisher wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:03 pm
slinger wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:30 pm
For once, saying "I told you so," brings no satisfaction, or pleasure, because we're all in the sane shit because the ignorant masses would rather devour sound bites than actually think for themselves and develop personal fucking opinions based on readily available facts.
That’s the problem with democracy. Everyone gets to vote, even the ‘ignorant masses’ and they make up the majority of the electorate. You’ve been a Trade Union Rep. When it came to industrial action and a vote, how much confidence did you have in the understanding your membership really had on how their vote might affect them, short and long term? Of course they devour sound bites and every politician (and Trade Union leader) knows it. They don’t have the intellectual capacity to work it out for themselves. Locking onto sound bites allows them to feel involved, informed and intelligent without having to do any of the thinking they would find mentally taxing and stressful. Of course, the lying politicians are not being democratic, but they know the ‘ignorant masses’ don’t have the gumption to work that out.
I'd count myself lucky, in so much as most of my staff were pretty clued up, but if anyone was floundering I was always happy to have a one-to-one with them. One of the guys I knew but who wasn't actually with my mob asked me to explain things, so I sat him down over a beer and gave him my opinon, and the union's, but he still decided the strike wasn't for him, so he scabbed. I was best man at his wedding a few years later. I could, at least, appreciate his honesty in coming to me first.
When our strike was broken, by Thatcher, it wasn't the membership that let us down, it was the "union officials" from branch level upwards who sold us down the river; the people who were giving me orders and telling me how to manage my portion of the branch.
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:57 pm
by savvypaul
Kent to be separated from rest of UK.
I imagine...
We're going to build a wall and get the EU to pay for it.
Only the brightest and best lorry drivers will be allowed in and out of Kent.
The permit will come in a blue wallet.
https://www.indy100.com/article/kent-bo ... XFx6wLxK4g
#takebackcontrol
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:11 pm
by TheMadMick
Seems just like the one they are putting around N Ireland!! Sic.
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:15 pm
by Fretless
Madness.
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:41 pm
by slinger
As a Kentish Man I feel justified in demanding - if they're going to force a hard border on us - the right for our county to stay in the EU.
Joking aside, have any of them looked at a map of Kent do we think? They had years to sort to how to police the NI border, and still couldn't cope. We've got shedloads more roads, lanes and tracks than that little border.
Good luck policing it with no planning .whatsoever and nowhere near the extra 50,000 border staff they promised. Add to that the fact that they've cut almost 25,000 police. and they're pretty well f*ck*d.
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:42 pm
by CN211276
savvypaul wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:57 pm
Kent to be separated from rest of UK
The reverse of when Calais was part of England in Medieval times.
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:01 am
by Grumpytim
I guess at least Kent will get some food from the continent, whilst we are ruled by the incontinent.
Truth is, short of the Berlin Wall any land border is mostly porous, and as the Faragists are discovering, the channel whilst it might have stopped Napoleon & Hitler, it can't stop a determined (desperate) group of refugees in search of a better life - just like a large majority of our true blue ancestors..
Re: Brexit Deal - one of the easiest in human history?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:50 am
by Lindsayt
It's easy to knock and to criticise. It's easy to be negative.
Does anyone here have a good solution to the Brexit Deal - including the Northern Ireland issues?
Bearing in mind that there's a vested interest amongst EU politicians to make it look like the UK is suffering as a result of Brexit in order to deter other nations from leaving.
I'm not going to criticise anyone when I don't have a better way of doing things.
