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Mate, when because of this every room you walked into at shows were playing it and if they weren't a large number of the space cadets were walking into rooms with a copy under their arms. When you walked into a flat earth dealer to show them your wears out it came to compare how Naim reproduced it, and you had to be the same presentation but better and of course you were never considered to be better. IF you had lived through that crap you would be as jaundiced by the records as I am. THO' yesterday with Terry we played Making Movies and it did sound fine.

Certainly one of the reasons I've never bought a Dire Straits record till the other week.

Dr Bunsen Honeydew wrote: When you walked into a flat earth dealer to show them your wears out it came to compare how Naim reproduced it, and you had to be the same presentation but better and of course you were never considered to be better.

I very much enjoyed waving aside the Sound Organisation's offers of Ben Sidran, Dire Straits and the like and getting them to play my copy of 'Raw Power' by Iggy and the Stooges. It quickly drove the toe-tapping salesperson out of the demo room!

I have to admit that I hated Dire Straits back in the day... but having pick up all of their studio album remasters on brand spanking new CD's and for silly prices from an HMV in Croydon, I have to say that they all sound damn good... now I never thought I'd ever say that!

We had a bigger range of music, but still biased to the mid twenty year old graduates who usually bought the stuff. Joan Armatrading, Supertramp - various, Voyage by Brian Bennett, Brand X (Gawd bless 'em), Peter Gabriel III, Bob Marley, plus a whole load of other stuff either side of this era. The Dire Straits album we played most was later - Love Over Gold and 'everyone' had Brothers In Arms...

Joe, you have to come clean about the salesman. I used to spend a lot of time there in the 80's. I can imagine that some of the chaps would have loved a bit of Iggy & Co.

So after all these years I can finally hold something against the "Flat Earth Brigade" then? They stopped people listening to what those same people now know is bloody good music,

There was no internet Slinger, there was no way to challenge these people, the magazines were stitched up and the only way to break in was with a LARGE advertising budget. And a good review was a guarantee of nothing. I remember Linn reps telling their dealers, "well if you want to sell that turntable then you don't need ours" after Pink got a couple of very good reviews. And of course the famous case of a Linn rep being caught on camera fecking up a Pink T suspension in a shops dem room. I am told it was company policy passed down from on high. So the failure of PT wasn't entirely down to the incompetence of Pinky

Five years or more ago when I was the first to highlight all this on the forums I was vilified and called a liar, banned etc etc, and slowly now people are realising I was telling the truth. So many people now are saying it (still not enough), but am I acknowledged, of course not I am still vilified.

PS - I thought the vote at TAS for me being the anti-christ would have been fun

Stemcor1990 wrote:Joe, you have to come clean about the salesman. I used to spend a lot of time there in the 80's. I can imagine that some of the chaps would have loved a bit of Iggy & Co.

I think it was Roger Macer; he was the bloke who came and installed the Roksan I bought, anyway.