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It would take someone pretty remarkable to sell true socialism to a naturally conservative British public, especially when you are up against most of the mainstream media messaging. Starmer is a skilled lawyer and competent politician, but not a remarkable leader.

While politicians from all parties continue to spout the same monetarist-driven, austerity policies, then you just have 'same sh*t, different wrapper'. Ironically, Johnson was probably the best chance of breaking the monetarist stranglehold that was Thatcher's most damaging legacy. Pity he was a cu*t.

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:55 am ... Ironically, Johnson was probably the best chance of breaking the monetarist stranglehold that was Thatcher's most damaging legacy...

Total public spending in the UK in the 1980 fiscal year was £104 billion. Adjusted for inflation, that's £525 billion in today's terms.
Total public spending in the UK in the 1990 fiscal year was £201 billion. Adjusted for inflation, that's £539 billion in today's terms.


That's a 2.7% increase in public spending over the course of the Thatcher decade. Is that what you mean by Thatcher's most damaging legacy? The increase in spending of local and central government in real terms?

For reference, total public spending in 2022 wil be £1058 billion.

Lindsayt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:35 pm

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:55 am ... Ironically, Johnson was probably the best chance of breaking the monetarist stranglehold that was Thatcher's most damaging legacy...

Total public spending in the UK in the 1980 fiscal year was £104 billion. Adjusted for inflation, that's £525 billion in today's terms.
Total public spending in the UK in the 1990 fiscal year was £201 billion. Adjusted for inflation, that's £539 billion in today's terms.


That's a 2.7% increase in public spending over the course of the Thatcher decade. Is that what you mean by Thatcher's most damaging legacy? The increase in spending of local and central government in real terms?

For reference, total public spending in 2022 wil be £1058 billion.

The widespread acceptance of monetarism was Thatcher's most damaging legacy - the myth that a sovereign currency issuing nation has to 'balance the books' in the same way that you balance a household budget.

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:55 am Ironically, Johnson was probably the best chance of breaking the monetarist stranglehold that was Thatcher's most damaging legacy.

Unfortunately, he has done himself so much damage that currently no body appears to be willing to trust him to run a bath.

Geoff.R.G wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:28 pm

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:55 am Ironically, Johnson was probably the best chance of breaking the monetarist stranglehold that was Thatcher's most damaging legacy.

Unfortunately, he has done himself so much damage that currently no body appears to be willing to trust him to run a bath.

True. But I wouldn't put it past him to try for PM, again.

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:30 pm

Geoff.R.G wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:28 pm

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:55 am Ironically, Johnson was probably the best chance of breaking the monetarist stranglehold that was Thatcher's most damaging legacy.

Unfortunately, he has done himself so much damage that currently no body appears to be willing to trust him to run a bath.

True. But I wouldn't put it past him to try for PM, again.

His minions are, apparently, offering a knighthood or peerage for a party member to step down from a very safe seat, Uxbridge isn't safe enough.

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:56 pm

Lindsayt wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:35 pm

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:55 am ... Ironically, Johnson was probably the best chance of breaking the monetarist stranglehold that was Thatcher's most damaging legacy...

Total public spending in the UK in the 1980 fiscal year was £104 billion. Adjusted for inflation, that's £525 billion in today's terms.
Total public spending in the UK in the 1990 fiscal year was £201 billion. Adjusted for inflation, that's £539 billion in today's terms.


That's a 2.7% increase in public spending over the course of the Thatcher decade. Is that what you mean by Thatcher's most damaging legacy? The increase in spending of local and central government in real terms?

For reference, total public spending in 2022 wil be £1058 billion.

The widespread acceptance of monetarism was Thatcher's most damaging legacy - the myth that a sovereign currency issuing nation has to 'balance the books' in the same way that you balance a household budget.

More damaging than the increase of government spending?

A sovereign currency issuing nation cannot go bust.

Why would you think an increase in government spending is damaging?

savvypaul wrote: ↑Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:30 pm

True. But I wouldn't put it past him to try for PM, again.

I can see him being Labour's biggest asset, ready to step in when whoever is Tory leader gets the boot should they loose the next election.

That is the latest rumour flying about. His current constituency of Uxbridge and South Ruislip might not be looking too fondly upon him, and he may well lose his seat if a general election is called.

So the story goes, Dorries is to receive an honour in his resignation honours list (although why he is allowed one I do not know) so she goes to the Lords and then he gets parachuted into her ultra-safe seat of Mid Bedfordshire, with the ultimate aim of running for leader again in the future.

A.N. Other then gets stuck with Uxbridge and South Ruislip.

Check out this article about his "resignation honours list," by the way. It's typical of the corrupt twatbucket.